Personally I find fault with the US health care system. Money these days talks louder than anything, so the 'little' people often go without things like medication, when the people who don't need it get it with ease. >> So not fair.
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I agree with both rants. Although the public education system is the more subversively evil thing. Bdan, are you going to send your offspring to public schools?
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I do not think there is anything implicitly wrong with using money as an objective measuring tool when deciding which course of action to take. The problem is when private property rights (human rights are a special case) are disregarded. This is the primary problem with both fascist health care and fascist education in the United States. Canada is not much different, but it is a legitimately socialist country.
In any case, the legislation and regulation of the health care system in the USA is what it makes it the big evil institution it is. That is a long and interesting (but depressing) topic.
The top priority of the public "education" system is to teach conformity and state worship. If you are raised in a social democracy, you are taught the social democracy is the fabric of society and without it civilization would degenerate in a state of anarchy and chaos. (They ought to specify anarcho-primalism. Not all anarchy is created equal.) You can replace "social democracy" with whatever shape the state in your jurisdiction happens to have- psycho-dictator worship, theocracy, communism, socialism. This indoctrination is carried out at the expense of academics. Obviously, to properly indoctrinate the kids you need to make sure they show up and you wind up with "right to an education" nonsense. A "right to an education" basically means that the state reserves the right to kidnap children (human rights violation) and subject them to suitable indoctrination at the expense of their education, if necessary. Because conformity is important, people who do not fit in or think too far outside prescribed are bullied and abused both by their peers and "instructors" (more human right abuses).
Even if all of the above issues can be deemed minor, we live in a post-industrial information age society. The public education is set up to train people productive workers for the industrial age (think World War II). The curriculum and method of delivery are just plain broken in the modern world.
Obviously, I believe that subjecting children to state sponsored propaganda centers is one of the most irresponsible things a parent can do to their children. I intend to homeschool mine.
Wow! Only you my friend could come up with such a long winded answer. OK so that makes sense. I can see all of your points. What kind of political stucture is Japan, and what do ou think of things there (education, health care etc)
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*feels kinda out of place now 0_o * Well, if it's any indication, my mother gave all four of us kids up to a state foster program / welfare/group homes.... and we all ended up with our fair share of abuse. Those people hire glorified babysitters, not healthcare councelors and professionals. They look for any excuse to drug you, when all it would take was a decent life lesson, like person to person...... the government here is lazy nowadays.
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I completely agree with you with the Public Education System. And yeah... the health care system of the states is an incredibly depressing topic.
If I was ever going to have children (which I'm not) I'd side with home schooling. At the very least I'd know the quality of what they were getting taught first hand. Now I do have good experiences from school, but, I had home schooling for awhile during my bad times and, I got a lot of good out of it. Clearly since I graduated High School.
The popular form of state organization in the first world is social democracy. The USA has a special form of imperialist-fascist social democracy. Most other countries are closer to socialism with Europe being very socialist. Japan is just a version of the same thing.
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No need to feel out of place. The State is an institution that systematically infringes human rights and private property rights for the short term benefit of whoever is pulling the strings. Unfortunately, it sounds like you have had a fair amount of first hand experience. The same basic principles apply to health care in the USA.
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My primary reasons for wanting to go the homeschooling route are academics and insulation from state propaganda, bullying, etc. I think that standard high schools are a testament to just how broken the system is.
Oh, indeed. Unfortunately I have a couple of very good friends who were home schooled because their father is very controlling, and he won't let them go for their GED as long as they live with him. I've also heard of other friends who's parents home schooled them, but was never really strict about it.... some kids don't take it very seriously. But if I ever had kids, I'd probably home school them, too. The public school system does a lot that never gets out there...
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I know I didn't go to school in the states for very long, and my Elementary years there I found were a lot better than when I got up in Canada for various reasons.
I also know that unless you are in a VERY well off place, your kid is getting a very different level of education than in other places. Canada doesn't have that. They've equalized so everything sucks.
Bah, I remember Mike Harris screwing EVERYTHING up. I was one age group too high to be effected by his dumbassary, but my friends werent. General Math became way too hard for my friends where were in it and I remember how sick it was making them. LUCKILY I had gotten my math done by this point. I sucked at it, and I wouldn't have passed High School if I had needed to take even the Basic course after the stupid changes.
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Homeschooling is a non-standardized education. Like any form of non-standardized education, it has the potential to provide the best possible education or the worst. In a standardized setting the people above and below the standard are the ones who suffer.
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Poor people are treated like dirt in America. If you are poor enough, even the police are out to get you. Public education is no exception. I'm still not convinced having your children sent to a public school in an upper class American neighborhood is healthy. I love your comment about Canada's equalization of terrible education. Socialism is funny like that. =P
If anyone is bored, Google "Oreo Barbie". It is Amazing what can make it out the door and onto shelves, even if not for very long.
Damn it Sqeos! Get an avatar! OK I see what you are talking about. So basically no matter what country you are in the government pigs are all the same.
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"oreo barbie" huh... XD might just do that when I'm bored.
Yeah, poor people are treated like dirt here, and people are FIRM believers in "seeing is believing". Crime can happen right there, and the cops are like "... eh. I didn't see it. Pictures or it didn't happen". Or in the case of mental health, unless you're physically bat**** crazy, suggesting mental defect is a "cry for attention" or "being too lazy to work", which is unfair and ridiculous.
Also, I've talked this over with Lledra at some length, but in regards to home schooling, for some States here, I've heard you need to be educated in all subjects to a certain degree and be state certified where you live to keep your kid out of schoo, or else people will wonder why your kid isn't enrolled. It's really none of their business why, considering the state of public schooling nowadays, but that's the rumor I've heard.
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LOL Oh I remember 'Oreo Barbie' I also remember 'Pregnant Barbie' that didn't last long either. Though those two had VEEERY different reasons for not being around that long.
Yeah, I'd just say stick to home schooling. You can make sure that they're learning what should be learned and give them some outside knowledge. Also you teach at their learning curve. Where as in school if you're an overachiever but in classes with everyone else, you have to wait for others to catch up.
Like my friend who entered Pre-K knowing how to read and recognize all the letters and numbers. Apparently the school people got pissed at her mum since that's what they were going to do. Now they didn't have anything to do with her besides have her sit out most of the time.
The avatar will happen eventually. "Government pigs" are the same everywhere, but some places are worse than others. Also, some places are better in some areas, but worse in others. You pretty well have to comply when the government tells you to bend over no matter where you live.
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My mother lives in a relatively poor rural area, and the police don't do anything even if they catch people. I suppose things are a little different in the inner city... or maybe not. There are some neighborhoods the police avoid.
The details of homeschooling differ from state to state. My aunt is homeschooling her eldest daughter, and it appears that there is no oversight. Not that I think that is a bad thing.
Re: Lledra
It was pregnant Midge, not pregnant Barbie. My theory is that Barbie has abortions. They could combine them and make pregnant Oreo Barbie. =P Actually, that is massively wrong on so many levels.
Public school generally moves too fast or too slow for any particular student. The slow kids are lost and the fast kids are bored. Being able to teach the kid instead of meeting the state guidelines is one of the reasons I'm in favor homeschooling.
Yeah, if even the police avoid it? I wouldn't wanna go there >> as it is, I don't walk my own street at night and I have to play "package nazi" because the crackheads in my apt building have a bad habit of signing off on them and stealing them. Makes me very unhappy.
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SRSLY?? They had the balls to make a pregnant doll????? Yeah... ha, I can't see that having lasted long.
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LOL I just got a kick out of what you said about her having abortions. Yes, Midge. Oh goodness what a name.
Didn't one set have little kids in that? Or were those Barbies sisters? Since Barbie hasnt'been married and can't have kids. Since NOOOOBODY has kids without being married.
I remember my friend saying that Pregnant Midge TERRIFIED her little brother. Though she terrorized him with it first. Their mother was pregnant and he got it into his head that if he hugged her too hard that the baby was going to fall out and die... My friend was a jerk when she was young.
Yes, if there is any reason to favour home schooling, then it really would be that.
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Yep, they did it. I remember all the religious people and one of our teachers freaking out about how wrong it was.
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"yeah my argument to those controversies would have been 'no one in this day and age is married with kids anymore, they jusst have kids. The 'american dream' of a white picket fence, friendly little dog, loving husband , 3.2 kids and no iussues what-so-freaking-EVER has been dead for a long time'.
Times have changed.
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The police don't avoid where my mother lives, they just don't do anything if and when they show up. Of course, there are places the police don't go. Semi-related, I never want to go to Detroit.
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Yeah, Barbie is perpetually single without children. I suspect that she has serious psychological problems that prevent her from committing to a man. I'm not convinced Ken is straight. Maybe that is why Barbie is "with" him but they never get married.
Yes, big siblings can be evil.
I was having fun looking into controversial cartoons, and I actually watched a couple of South Park episodes. Let's just say that I thought there was a lot of unnecessary going on.
ROFL, Sgeos XD I have to admit I never put THAT much thought into barbie dolls..... I used to chop their hair off and take off their heads and limbs, tie them to the ceiling fan and put it on 'high'. Like some grotesque plastic mobile.
Least I never put them in the microwave XD I was.... a strange child ^^; I was an evil big sibling ^^
And you want a controversial cartoon? Look into robot chicken XD
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Ack! All of you people are sick! XP! My brother wasn't that evil I suppose. We never did the whole wreaking eachothers tows thing. I guess his abuse was mostly psycological.
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You had a smart brother then, All the trouble mine got into was mainly because of me and my "bright" ideas XDXD I dunno why I was so mean ^^ But he still likes me, so I must not have been all that horrible.
My sister on the other hand.... oh she hates me XDXD
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LMFAO Awww! You told her you would make him pretty? Oooh Captain Crunch. Oh man I'm getting too much laughter out of that. *Is a bad person*.
And yes, I'm not convinced that Ken is straight either, and I wouldn't doubt that Barbie has some sort of psychological issues that she's not having addressed.
@Ryan:
D: Darien never did ANYTHING to me! Took me in for Show and Tell when I was new, taught me how to draw. Would make me 'How to Draw' books of my favourite Disney Afternoon Characters.... now I was the evil one. I'd go into his room where he had his smurf village set up and I'd grab the 'Bad Smurf' from that one episode. It would go around saying 'KANARK' or something like that and destroy stuff. And would subsequently knock over every smurf and house and thing he had set up.... I also broke his Dinosaur things but I was too young to remember that bit. I'd also sit in front of the front door and cry when I was the same age with the Smurf thing when he was about to go out. Since I didn't want him to leave without me.
In short. XD; I was the horrible little sister....
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Yukari and I went to the hospital today. Yukari is eight weeks (plus or minus seven days) pregnant with monochorionic diamniotic twins (one placenta, two amniotic sacs). The doctor was surprised. Evidently they were too small to distinguish when we went to the hospital last week. They are both about 1.5 cm and healthy. The estimated delivery date is February 16th, 2012.
